Pure Kingdom – Finding and Emergent Eschatology November 4, 2008
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Emergent Village undergoes change October 31, 2008
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All,
The Emergent Village has finally responded to the survey they conducted last summer.
The letter is very wonderful as a statement of emerging values and future directions.
I suggest you read it and comment.
http://tinyurl.com/5pzwgt
Bob
Theology conversation about authority… okanes tonight October 27, 2008
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So we will be meeting at O’kanes (back part of McMenamins) at 7:00pm tonight for our monthly catch up and conversation. Should be a really good conversation as there is lots going on with each of us and it’ll be good to be able to support each other in all this.
The question for the evening (thanks to Bob) is the following:
Phyllis Tickle’s new book, The Great Emergence, raises the question of where authority lies in the new emerging transition we are now in.
The protestant Reformation set Scripture as the final authority, and that has been the case for the last few hundred years.
(remember before that it was the Pope, not scripture, that had the final authority on earth for ALL Christians.)
So, the topic I would like to tee up is: where does authority lie if we are open to interpreting the scripture in a post modern perspective,
and thus may have many differing understandings of just what Scripture is telling us?
(for example, the role of women as teaching Pastors in the church. Some think this is natural and how Jesus lived it, and some think that The Bible says it is not ok.)
Hope to see you there,
Nate
Emerging Traditions by Carol Howard Merritt October 23, 2008
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Here is a blog post from a pastor that I respect (Carol Howard Merritt) from her website TribalChurch.org
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Blessings,
Greg
I’m banging my way through this book, ever concerned about the deadline that’s looming, close on the horizon. I’m writing about cultural shifts, and how they affect our spiritual communities in a new generation.
MaryAnn McKibben Dana, who is in my writing group and is helping me with the project a great deal, asked me, “It’s like emerging church for the mainline?”
“Hmmm… well… yes… sort of … I guess….”
I am, as many of you know, in a constant struggle with realizing that paramount shifts to postmodernism have occurred, knowing that I am postmodern, and accepting that people label me emerging. I am a part of presbymergent and have great hope for the creative energy that flows there, but not entirely comfortable with all things emerging. Yet, as Shawn Coons and Jim Bonewald have reminded me on occasion, there are different emerging church movements, not just one. That’s comforting.
One of the main things that I have difficulty with within the emerging church movements (even the denominational-mergents) is the quick assumption that those who are emerging from an evangelical tradition are somehow more in touch with culture than us—the stuffy, old, hierarchical mainliners.
We are far from perfect. We have important questions to ask ourselves, significant changes that will be made. And many of those questions are being asked in emerging church circles.
If I’m honest, I’ll tell you that I’m not only emerging from the mainline church, but also from the evangelical church in which I grew up. I was educated in both. They both reside uncomfortably within me. With that perspective, the thought that evangelicalism is more in tune with postmodern culture than mainline denominations is really, really odd.
Evangelicalism is, on the surface, much more culturally flexible. Many evangelical congregations will change their worship style if they know that it will attract more members. They may not like it, but they’ll do it. Since the focus is outward, they easily alter their traditions to the surrounding culture. Their main goal is evangelizing, so they adapt to different advertising techniques, image makeovers, and technological advances. Evangelicals quickly grasp on to trends.
And, most importantly, they plant new churches. They have a deep sense that the best way to reach out to a “different people group” is to start a new congregation.
In comparison, when we talk about planting churches in Presbyterian circles, we instantly point out the failure rate, and argue that it’s a bad investment (as if closing churches, hoarding money, and turning away new leadership is a really great business plan…). Our cultural standards and advertising almost always favor the tastes and preferences of the elderly, and in an established church, any deviation is rare and difficult to pull off. There can be a sense that new generations need to develop an appreciation for our practices, while we have little patience for any adaptation of our traditions.
Yet, I have to say, beyond that surface level, when you scratch just a little bit, the mainline church makes a lot more sense than the evangelical tradition in a postmodern era. That’s why I converted and that’s why I stay.
We have embraced scientific thought, not expecting the newest discoveries to bow and bend to a six-day creation story. We have wrestled with biblical literalism, and taken postmodern insights in hermeneutics seriously. We have questioned theories of atonement for decades. We have upheld the inherent value and equality of women in our homes, workplaces, political arenas, and congregations. We have been engaging in social justice issues, caring for the poor, feeding the hungry, responding to disasters, and helping the homeless. We do not do these things only for Christians or as a manipulative evangelistic tool. But we have also been doing it in the public sphere, working for change in peoples’ lives, because we believe in the inherent dignity and worth of humans, of “the Other.”
Communities that are emerging from the evangelical tradition are beginning to wrestle with many of these things, but they have a lot of work ahead of them before they catch up with the mainlines.
Where does that leave us now? We have a cadre of congregations that have been formed in the mold, tastes, and expectations of fifty years ago. Will we, the mainline church, be able to open ourselves up a bit, and welcome a culture of people who do not long for the 50s or even 60s? Will we be able to welcome the reforming of our sacred traditions in a new culture? Or, will we allow our fears to overwhelm us?
I guess what I’m asking is this: Will we allow our congregational cultures to be as vigorous and engaging as our great academic and theological traditions have been? Will we begin to wrestle with the important questions of planting churches? And will we allow our congregations to be reformed and always reforming?
the photo’s by Diana Pappas
Spiritual Practice? Sure why not! October 3, 2008
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Alright so here we go…a little while ago I reposted a post from the PC (USA)’s Swords into Plowshares blog about the spiritual practice of fasting in response to the Global Food Crisis. The post was followed by a story from the Presbyterian News Service with resources for fasting, focused meditation, and a place to sign up.
Last night at our meeting of the Fold, I asked the youth if they would be interested in doing this, there was some positive response. We talked about concerns of growing bodies and minds, we even talked about other things that you could “fast” from other than food.
Which is where this story is going…
Heidi and I have decided to take on this spiritual practice for this year starting this week. Heidi will be giving up food and I will giving up my cell phone, twitter, blogs, facebook, and the overall internet. (I am not fasting from food because I am a Type 1 diabetic.) Actually, it irritates the fire out of me that I can’t do something (or shouldn’t) because of my diabetes. I don’t like when I feel like my body is failing me. That, however, is way off the subject…or at least the original intent of this post.
I know of at least one youth who will giving up XBox for one weekend a month. I feel like these are baby steps, but important ones that could lead to some serious discernment about actually needs for me and some of my youth.
We also agreed that on the weeks of communion (first Sunday of the month for us) that we would come to the early service (9 Am for us) take communion together and then during our Sunday School time (10:45 AM for us) we would share a meal together and talk about our experience. I am looking forward to these discussions and to see where they lead us.
I know that we aren’t really supposed to talk about fasting when we do it, but I would love to be able to share my thoughts and get others thoughts about experiences, discernment, and clarity.
I look forward to this experience…So this weekend Oct. 3-5, I will not be “on the grid”. If I don’t respond to your email, it is because I am intentionally staying away. If I don’t comment on your comment on Facebook it is because I haven’t seen it. If I don’t answer your text it is because my Blackberry is off.
This should be fun…or at least educational and maybe even spiritual.
Join me, join us, let’s see if we can hear God calling us into a transformative way of life.
Blessings,
Greg
Doug Pagitt – Emergent vs. Emerging September 25, 2008
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Ok, so this may be entirely confusing to most who watch. But here is Doug Pagitt, who I greatly admire, and who pastors Solomon’s Porch, where I used to go in Minneapolis.
I appreciate that he notes that he and many emergents never necessarily intended to start emerging churches. He notes that Emergent and Emergence are bigger than the emerging church. Enjoy!
Here is Tony Jones’ two cents… also some good things. I appreciate that these guys are not tied to the terminology and are willing to say something much bigger is taking place.
Probably has something to do with Phyllis Tickle’s new book, The Great Emergence.
An Evening with Becky Garrison of the Wittenburg Door September 3, 2008
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When: Tuesday – September 16th
Where: Paulina Springs Books – Redmond, OR
Time: 6-8:00PM
Becky Garrison is Senior Contributing Writer for The Wittenburg Door the nation’s oldest, largest, and only print religious satire magazine. She also regularly contributes to the God’s Politics blog. Identified by Publishers Weekly as one of “Four Evangelicals with Fresh Views.”
Recent writing credits include work for The Ooze, Bibal Press, Christian Retailing, Charisma, Stackpole Books and Prism. When she’s not hanging out in a coffee shop or a New York City park working on her laptop, Becky can often be found kayaking, sailing, flyfishing or hiking.
September 2008 Becky Garrison will be featured in the upcoming documentary “The Ordinary Radicals” directed by Jamie Moffett, co-founder of The Simple Way.
Author of:

This book contains 30+ interviews with lay and clergy worship leaders discussing how to reach those for whom church is not in their vocabulary.Subjects interviewed included: Brian McLaren, Diana Butler Bass, Phyllis Tickle, Shane Claiborne, Jonny Baker, Kester Brewin, Peter Rollins, and N.T. Wright, as well as some new voices offering fresh expressions of faith.
A challenge has been issued on matters of faith and Becky Garrison meets it head on in this witty yet poignant answer to the Anti-God gurus Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Daniel Dennett.
Becky Garrison, religious satirist, is taking a stand. Where most Christians assume the character of the Cowardly Lion chanting, “I do believe, I do believe, I do believe,” Garrison refuses to simply just thrust tracts at these self-proclaimed infidels.
Instead, Garrison steels her pen and takes on the ungodly program of the New Atheists, skewering each argument with her sharp satiric wit. Garrison turns aside the atheists’ assault without ignoring its real criticisms, namely, the church’s inadequate response to war, evolution, medical ethics, social justice, and other important issues in the post-9/11 world.
Garrison was born in Hartsville, South Carolina, where her father, the late Rev. Dr. Karl Claudius Garrison, Jr., a civil rights activist, Episcopal priest and college professor was serving as rector of St. Bartholomew’s Episcopal Church in Harstsville, SC. Her mother, Nancy Little Garrison was a direct descendant of Roger Williams, founder of the state of Rhode Island and John Howland, John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, three passengers aboard The Mayflower.
She is author of The New Atheist Crusaders and Their Unholy Grail (Thomas Nelson, January 2008), Rising from the Ashes: Rethinking Church (Seabury Books, 2007), and Red and Blue God, Black and Blue Church (Jossey Bass, 2006). Currently, is the Senior Contributing Write for The Wittenburg Door. Also, she blogs on the God’s Politics blog and The Ooze, as well as freelancing for other publications.
The Becky Garrison Official Forum was set up by the Internet Book Database in October 2006. Garrison has spoken at Greenbelt [1] and Soularize[2], and will be featured in the upcoming documentary “The Ordinary Radicals [3].”
Upcoming books: You’ll have to come to Paulina Springs Books in Redmond and ask Becky about them.


